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  1. rinzlerdotexe

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    2017-2019 F-150, 2018-2019 Expedition/Navigator - 3.5L EcoBoost - Excessive Oil Consumption

    • Engine - Oil Consumption, DTC- P0365 and/or P0369
    SSM 47983

    5/14/2019

    3.5L GTDI - excessive oil consumption with or without diagnostic trouble code (DTC) P0365 and/or P0369.


    FORD: 2017-2019 F-150, 2018-2019 Expedition/Navigator


    ISSUE
    Built On Or Before 1-Apr-2019 Some 2017-2019 F-150 and 2018-2019 Expedition/Navigator vehicles equipped with a 3.5L ecoBoost engine built on or before 1-Apr-2019 may exhibit excessive oil consumption with or without diagnostic trouble code (DTC) P0365 and/or P0369.


    ACTION
    If there are no visible external oil leaks, replace both valve covers. Refer to Workshop Manual, Section 303-01. For claiming, use causal part 6582 and applicable labor operations in Section 6 of the Service Labor Time Standards
     
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    Hello, my covers were replaced on a 19 raptor. It was not runn6 right...power loss and surging under acceleration. Then engine light came on. Took to dealership and they replaced the covers. Also states dtc p0365 now stored as continuous dtc. Truck still does not run right...surging and lack of power. Boost also goes higher than it used to. Any recommendations? I took it back to the dealership and am waiting for the response. He initially said oil was getting on the pcv valve and making it run poorly. ...but they did not replace it. Maybe it needs cleaning or replacement?
     
  3. Geek-O-Boost

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    Unfortunately, this seems like an issue that even Ford is still having trouble finding the cause of. I've heard a few cases of dealers replacing the cylinder heads and not even that worked. I'm sure the admins will keep this thread going with any updates that come their way though, since this seems to be a pretty serious issue.
     
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    Thanks! Ok.
     
  5. Bill Finn

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    Had both covers replaced today after the engine light came on, 3000 miles on a 2019 Limited with the 3.5 Raptor Motor. The motor was down 2 quarts.
     
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    Mine seems to be doing ok after the fix. Still holding oil as well.
     
  7. Geek-O-Boost

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    Damn, and only after 3k?! That's some shit. Definitely keep us posted if that ended up fixing it or not.
     
  8. Bill Finn

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    Will do.
     
  9. Steven Dawson

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    Bill Finn

    I had the same exact problem. I had 3K on the OD in a 2019 Limited (purchased in March) and my check engine light came on! I too had extreme loss of power and the boost levels were almost pegged when trying to accelerate pass 50 MPH. Dealer was closed at the time, limped home and set up appointment for the next morning. Started my truck the next morning and drove off and what-do-you-know, the truck drove like brand new again! Went to dealer anyway to get diagnosis. The dealer OBD'ed and popped P0365/P0369 codes, they said I was down two quarts of oil (burn-off). Recommended replacing both valve covers (per SSM 47983). However parts will have to be ordered. That's really eerie........
     
  10. John Gardner

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    Just got my 2019 F150 Limited back for this same reason, P365. 5500 miles and was down 5 quarts of oil. It makes no sense that the fix is to replace the valve covers. there is no difference in the new covers and there were no leaks. Sure hope this works but it sounds like an attempt to just do something.
     
  11. Bill Finn

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    Brought the 2019 F 150 Limited in for service with 7100 miles on it; engine (3.5 EcoBoost) down 1 quart of oil. Therefore. with the Motor Company replacing the valve covers at 3000 miles (the so-called fix), 1 quart of oil still disappeared within the next 4100 miles.

    This is running the exact same course as my 2007 CVO Harley put me through with regard to motor issues, 5 crate motors in 3 months under warranty. However that was the first year for the 110 cubic inch motor and as all Harley owners know; once you purchase the bike you a an unpaid member of the Research and Development Team.
     
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  12. Steven Dawson

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    Just recently I had my valve covers replaced by Ford to fix the oil consumption problem with the 3.5L H/O Ecoboost. I thought my problem was fixed..... NOT!!!! Just last Friday (Nov 8), I was traveling home from work when my "new" 2019 Limited with less then 7K on the OD lost significant power and the engine check light appeared on my dash. Made it home and parked. The following day, Saturday (not great times for major service at my local Ford dealers) came and went, check engine light still on. So, I waited until Monday morning to contact Ford. Started my truck and the check engine light still on. However, I was curious, so I plugged in a ODB Reader to see if it would generate a noticeable code. It did! It told me that my crank shaft sensor discovered a fault. That got me to thinking.... so, I check my oil levels on the dash indicator and everything looked normal (pressure, etc.). Next, I check the physical oil levels and my heart sank! My @!$*!%* oil levels where down almost three quarts!!!!! I could have seized my engine!!! I immediately replaced the depleted oil and the engine returned to normal operating levels. WTF!! Where is the oil going? There are absolutely no visible leaks in and around the engine compartment, heck the engine bay is so clean you can eat on it. Needless to say this truck will be going back to the dealership ASAP. Apparently, the valve cover fix was a bust! What's next Ford!?!?!?
     
  13. Bill Finn

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    I for one, am interested in hearing Fords reply to your issue since it is substantial and immediate. My issue of 1 quart in 4100 miles hasn't earned me a reply yet from the Service Manager who kicked it to the Motor Company Engineering brain-trust.
     
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    3 quarts of oil short!?!?!? Holy shit.... That hurts my heart to hear that for a brand new truck :( Hopefully Ford will do right by you and replace your truck!
     
  15. Bill Finn

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    What is the Lemon Law in your state?

    What I find very irritating about this situation is; this motor 450 HP is not a first year production and has had this issue for 2 PRIOR years 2017, 2018.
     

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